Name three things you never thought would go together: Whale-watching, Oscars, barbecue! Ha.
Ging, Damien, Billy (Photo by Rob)
(Photo by Rob)
Damien (Photo by Rob)
Jordan & Liz (Photo by Jen)
Cousin, Loden, Brian (Photo by Rob)
Dallas (Photo by Rob)
Cliff Jumping (Photo by Jen)
Ross (Photo by Rob)
Brian & Jill (Photo by Kristin)
If I back up just a little bit, though, when we got back from breakfast a bunch of people had gone to Shipwreck Beach. Dallas and some others left to join them, but since we’d told people to stop by the house on Sunday, I thought I should stay there. Kristin and I sat around by the pool. I took a nap on a float. After a while, it was clear that no one was stopping by until later. I blame this on hangovers! So, Kristin and I went to Shipwrecks for a while too. I had fun playing in the surf with Brian and Chad and Jill for about an hour.
Tien, Pina Colada Master
Cousin, Dad & Dallas Grilling
Dallas, Josh & Tweeny Grilling
Richard & Amanda
Richard & Rachelle
Todd, Kelly, Damian, Vanessa, Sara, Brian, Adam, Christine, Trevor, Kate
Todd & Kelly
Such a pretty sunset!
One last sunset shot, this one taken in the same spot a few days earlier. (Photo by Kristin)
When we came home friends began coming over to hang out. Some just stopped by on their way out of town or on the way to other plans. We had a big barbecue to try to eat up our leftover food and drinks. It was a task we were not up for! We sat out on the lanai and watched whales while eating dinner. There was a beautiful sunset that night and I found a bunch of our friends across the street watching the beautiful show. Also, the Oscars were on (on a time delay) so some people were having fun watching who won. This was our last day on Kauai, so it was nice to hang out with everyone one last time.
We were told many times and it is true: You spend months and months, in our case over a year, planning this day and it is over before you know it. Honestly, I had so much fun and enjoyed seeing everything we planned come to fruition and seeing everyone there, but it really did feel like the wedding lasted 30 seconds. This is one of the reasons I was so happy to have our friends in Hawaii for more than just this one day… so that we could hang out multiple days and spend time together.
Here is how it all went down (Warning – I thought this was going to be short and concise, but once I started writing, I couldn’t stop.):
At about noon my stylist, Mia Moriguchi came over to Ho’Onani Estates. At a little after noon, Steve Koo, our photographer came over and was with us throughout the day. I didn’t do a hair and makeup trial, but I had a lot of photos of hairstyles that I liked. For makeup, I told her that I wanted something natural – I didn’t want it to look like I wasn’t wearing any makeup, but I didn’t want it to look like I was going out to the club. She did great. I think the final look was pretty much just what I was going for.
Also, Mia was nice enough to apply coverup to my legs and feet because my bites were still pretty noticeable. During this whole time my mom was with me and Jordan’s girlfriend Liz. Also, Kristin was a huuuuuge help with getting everything ready and organized for us. She’s also really good at making mimosas with POG instead of OJ! Later on Jess G. and Jess B. came by just in time for me to put my dress and jewelry on, which was awesome because Jess B. made my jewelry! So she put it on me. Also, my dad came over to get a sneak peek.
I got ready in the rental house where our bedroom was located and kicked Dallas out to get ready in the other house. Dallas wasn’t sure up til the wedding day which shirt he was going to wear. He bought 3 and ruled out one. I ended up picking the dark blue one. Good thing, because later on Danny was wearing the other shirt, Dallas’s same new leather slippers and tan shorts! Once we were both ready, Steve and his brilliant assistant (and wife) Laura, had Dallas stand across the street from our estate. There’s a nice wall with some gorgeous lava rock and a beautiful view. They told Dallas to look out towards the water and whatever you do, don’t turn around. Then I walked across the yard, across the street and tapped him on the shoulder. This was our “first look,” our first time seeing each other in our wedding garb. After our initial first look, we took a moment for ourselves, which was nice.
From there we went with Steve and Laura to Poipu Beach. We were not getting married on the beach and I wanted just a few beachy photos. It was so hot at the beach that day and so crowded, too. I was nervous about staying on schedule, though, which is why I picked Poipu Beach. It was the closest. In hindsight, we probably should have gone to Shipwrecks. It’s less crowded, plus that’s where we hang out most on this trip. Also, we ended up having time to spare! Whatever, though. Steve directed us, we got a few photos, and we were on our way. We went back to the house, freshened up a little, and then we hung out wtih housemates as they were getting ready for a while.
At about 4:00 p.m. we headed over to the wedding site. It’s funny, we were totally early for our 4:30 p.m. wedding. Our wedding planner, Marlene Mira, said this never has happened before. She had us just sit in the car with the air conditioning on. Steve and Laura waited it out with us. All of our guests were arriving and walking past us, like a red carpet show. We surprised some of them by rolling the window down and saying “hi.” Funny. At about 4:20 Marlene came out to get the show on the road. It was almost time and she said our guests were getting hot from sitting in the sun. But our guests were still arriving, so we kind of hung back and at least let those who just pulled in or were in the parking lot get to the ceremony area before starting. Marlene was definitely not on “Hawaii time.”
We had the wedding at Joe’s on the Green. It’s a bar and restaurant, a clubhouse, at the Kiahuna Golf Club. This sounds fancy, but Joe’s is a locally-owned business and we were planning a very casual event. How casual? Dallas was wearing shorts and slippers! We told everyone to dress “aloha casual,” meaning wear something nice, but fun and casual. We suggested ladies wear sun dresses and that guys wear aloha shirts. For guys and girls, sandals and flip flops were both acceptable, but socks with sandals is never acceptable!
The ceremony was held on a grassy knoll to the rear Joe’s on the Green. It was pretty much the putting green with the flags removed. Our wedding officiant was Julie Wirtz, who we found online. We liked Julie’s style. She’s spiritual, but not religious and was had a really laid back and personable style. Plus, she was willing to give us kamaaina rates. We worked with Julie to come up with a ceremony that had some Hawaiian flair, but was not over the top. We had a lei exchange with our parents (my niece Stephanie brought the leis up) and we also talked about the meanings of the word “aloha” (hello, goodbye, love, etc) and at one point had everyone say “aloha” together. I thought the ceremony went by fast. Little did I realize that our wedding videos are only about 9 minutes long and that includes the walking part! Yes, fast, it wasn’t just me!
Caroline & Tammy recorded the ceremony
During the ceremony we had the lead musician for Papa’a Bay Boys, the Papa’a Bay Duke, play. The Duke! Dallas and I chose not to have a wedding party. For our ceremony, Dallas escorted his parents down the aisle, then my brother escorted my mom and finally my dad escorted me and handed me over to Dallas. During this procession, the Papa’a Bay Duke played the Hawaiian Wedding Song. For our exit, the Duke played Henehene Kou ‘Aka (For You And I), a traditional Hawaiian song made popular by Israel “Bruddah Iz” Kamakawiwo’ole. The Duke continued to play Hawaiian traditional and island contemporary songs throughout cocktail hour and dinner.
After the ceremony, our wedding planner, Marlene, kind of herded us off to the side, on the golf path, by the musician. She knew that if we started mingling that she’d never get us seperated from our guests. We needed to get our marriage licensed signed and make it all official. In Hawaii you don’t need to have witnesses to make a marriage valid, but we had our moms sign as witnesses anyway. We also had just a few posed, family wedding photos that we wanted to take.
During this time our guests were welcome to begin cocktail hour. We also had a reception table set up. Marlene did such a great job setting this up using things we gave her and things that she just had. This is where our guests got their table assignments, wrote in our guestbook and picked up some photo sharing cards that we had made up. Each table was named after a different Kauai natural site or attraction. Table assignments were inside little beachy frames. It was a box with all of these frames that we’d sweated it out about. The box was mailled a month in advance and only arrived two days before the wedding! Our guestbook featured photos that Steve took during an engagement photoshoot in the Logan Square neighborhood of Chicago, where we live. The photo sharing cards also featured our engagement photos on one side. On the other side these cards had instructions on where people could view and upload digital photos and videos after the wedding.
All of the flowers at the wedding, including the flowers for my hair and our leis, were collected and assembled by Dallas’s Aunty Helene, her daughter Lei Lynn, Aunty Wendie, Dallas’s mom Kathy, his sister Caroline, and Caroline’s friend Tammy. The flowers turned out fabulous. So much more than I was expecting. And they matched our color scheme and style perfectly. I can’t thank these guys enough for taking this on and doing such a great job! For our leis they did white dendrobium orchids for me and maile leis for the dads and Dallas. The moms leis were made of a fragrant puakenikeni flowers.
Our family photos really did not take a long time, and so in no time at all we were free to join all of our friends and family for cocktail hour. We had a full bar available, but Dallas and I were only paying for beer, wine, and soda. We had purchased our own wine from Costco and then were paying a corkage fee for each bottle opened. The wines we chose were Menage a Trois California White and Mirassou Pinot Noir. For beer we had local brews, a keg of Primo and a keg of Kona Brewing Fire Rock Pale Ale. Our friend Tweeny had been to the Kauai Museum earlier in the day and made a haku lei (read her story here). It took 4 hours to make it! Sometime during cocktails Dallas tried it on… and left it on for a couple hours! It matched his maille lei perfectly!
I heard someone say that pupus were ready, so I grabbed Dallas and headed off. I wasn’t super hungry, but one of the other most advised things before the wedding was “Make sure you eat.” We headed off to stand in line for the buffet of pupus and that’s when we saw our bride and groom table, complete with a plate of pupus for each of us! Have I mentioned how much I love Marlene, our planner/coordinator? She thought of everything.
As far as the food goes, we worked with Joe, the owner of Joe’s on the Green, to have a custom, local menu. We wanted to make sure that all of our guests from the mainland could experience our local Hawaiian favorite foods. For pupus we had won tons, poke and three different kinds of maki sushi, including the local style, which is with canned tuna in the roll. For salads we had local greens with papaya seed dressing, lomi lomi salmon, and a potato mac salad. Our main entrees were kalua pig, chicken katsu, and grilled mahi. White rice, fried saimin, and local purple sweet potatoes were the accompaniments. For dessert we had tropical fruits and macadamia nut brownies. We loved the food and if it wasn’t our wedding, we would have been going up for more, but we had other things to do! That said, I think all of our friends are poke converts. They loved it. Actually, all of the food. People were coming up to us in the following days and without any prompting, telling us that our wedding had the best food they’d eaten all week. Yay!
After we were done eating, Steve grabbed us quick because there was a beautiful sunset. We took just a few minutes out to walk out onto the greens and get a few photos. Steve got some really great photos and I’m anxious to share all of our professional photos in another post.
For our MC, we chose Dallas’s brother, Jordan. He announced us before dinner and announced that it was time for dinner. After dinner he surprised us by saying that he and my brother were going to do a couple of toasts. My brother gave a really sweet toast, that he said was brainstormed in about 5 minutes, and it was the only time of the day when I almost started crying. Dallas’s brother gave a pretty typical Crowell toast, which was like “hey, Dallas is kind of a lot to deal with, I don’t know how you do it, I got your back.” After toasts Dallas said our mahalos to everyone for coming, for those who worked on the flowers, to our planner for making it all happen, to our parents.
Ross was our DJ for the night and now was his time to queue up the music. The first reception song of the night was “Is This Love” by Bob Marley and Dallas and I danced together. At one point Eleanor came up and surprised us by putting a $10 bill in my mouth. I had no idea what was going on but Billy told me later on that it is a Filipino tradition. Makes sense. Eleanor’s husband is Filipino. There were so many little traditions mixed in our wedding. Hawaiian things. Some people put Chinese lucky money in our cards. And we had that whole Chinese luck and longevity table in Honolulu. So fun to learn about everything.
Our second and third songs, which everyone was invited to join in on were “Better Together” by Jack Johnson and a special live-from-Chicago version of “I’m Yours” by Jason Mraz. Following that we had one more special song, “Crazy” by Kapena, a Hawaiian band that we like, and then it was straight into the dance music. Dallas worked for months on our playlist and it seemed like everyone loved it. We had such a fun time dancing all night. The playlist started out with 90s dance songs, and then had a few slow songs, then on to some current dance favorites, then a few more slow songs, and then we had an 80s section. Fun parts of the night – my dad really got into dancing and everyone was having fun dancing with him. He even got Dallas’s mom to dance with him to to “Good Vibrations” by Marky Mark. And my nieces, who swore they were not going to dance, danced all night too!
At 10 p.m. sharp we had to cut off the music. I mean, we weren’t even told “It’s almost 10, the next song is the last one.” It was more like “This song that’s playing now? That’s it!” But that’s ok. It was a Hall and Oates song and we knew that it’s a Kaua’i rule that we had to end at 10. Still, it felt like we could have gone on for hours longer! Everything went by so fast.
I must give one last shout out to our wedding planner Marlene Mira, of Mira Mira Events. When Dallas and I began planning our wedding we thought we could do everything ourselves. Afterall, Dallas grew up on Kauai and I’d been there to visit several times. We wanted a really simple wedding. Why would we pay someone to plan things when we could do it ourselves? Well, I found out really quickly that trying to sort everything out and get things coordinated was more difficult than we’d anticipated. After Tien and Shannan’s wedding, and after talking to Shannan the next day about the stresses of getting everything done, Dallas was really convinced we should hire someone to help us out. I’d seen Marlene’s site and was really impressed. I just had a good feeling about it, compared to the other stuff I’d seen out there. And? She was from Waimea, Dallas’s home town. I gave Marlene a call and from the very beginning I knew we’d done the right thing.
When we contacted Marlene we already had our venue, photographer and our officiant but we didn’t have anything sorted out. Marlene was very professional and knew just what needed to be done. She was always very responsive to us and always had good, cost-effective suggestions. It was so nice to have her “on the ground” in Kauai. She helped us plan everything ahead of time, coordinated the rentals, suggested the musician and the stylist, and helped us figure out our food and drink menus. She and her staff were there all day on the wedding day. All we had to do was show up and have a great time! We could not have pulled off this wedding without Marlene and we cannot recommend her enough!
And one more technical note. Ha. Dallas and I created a wedding website for all of our guests before the wedding. It had all of our information about the wedding, Kauai, what do do on Kauai, how to get there, recommendations on where to stay, even a list of Dallas’s favorite local beers and golf courses. We bought our own domain, RachelleandDallas.com, but just forwarded it to a MyWedding.com templated website that matched the style of our save the date cards and invitations. I think that having this was invaluable. And then the other interwebby thing we did was to set up a Flickr account where people could upload their photos after the wedding. At the wedding we had cards printed up with instructions on how to log in and upload. So now we have like 700 photos of the wedding and they started pouring in the day after the wedding. I got a 3rd party batch downloader, so now I have all of the photos saved on my hard drive. When we were walking down the aisle it was like a papparazzi audience! So happy for all of the people who have taken the time to upload their photos and share!
This is going to sound weird, but after 7 years of dating, Dallas’s family and my family had never met each other. The thing is, we’re all spread out, living in 5 different states. So, I guess it’s not that weird. We knew that we didn’t want our families to meet for the first time at the wedding, so the night before the wedding, in liu of a rehearsal dinner or something like that, we had family dinner.
About 6 weeks before our trip, Dallas and I started brainstorming where to have dinner. Somewhere nice, but not too expensive. Good food, but not crazy food. Some place good for kids, since my nieces would be there. Our families are not huge, but there would be 13 people, so we needed a restaurant that could accomodate that. And it needed to be nearby where we were all staying in Poipu.
After going through every restaurant we could think of in Poipu and doing some internet research, we finally decided that Plantation Gardens would be the perfect place. They could seat us all in an open-air area overlooking the gardens, the entrees were moderately priced and looked delicious, they even had a kids menu, and they were located within walking distance from where we were staying. Done and done. I made a reservation.
So, we all met up at the restaurant that night. I already knew what I wanted to eat because I’d been studying the menu ahead of time! For pupus we ordered a few of the plantation-style samplers. This included a house-made bbq kalua pork manapua, shrimp spring roll, garden roll, and raw ahi tuna. For my entree, I got the chef’s trio, which was seafood lau lau, peppercorn rubbed skirt steak, and haku, a Hawaiian swordfish.
For dessert I had the baked Hawaiian, which was a play on a baked Alaska and was made of Lappert’s chocolate and macadamia nut ice creams on a fudge brownie crust with toasted meringue. Plantation Gardens also had some really tasty and unique tropical drinks. I remember liking the Lavendar Pina Colada (Lavender Cruzan Estate Rum, Absolut Karunt, Coconut Syrup, Island Fresh Pineapple Juice) and the Plantation Breeze (Absolut Mandrin Vodka, Crème de Banana, Peach Schnapps Passion Fruit & Guava Juice).
Turned out, dinner was perfect. The only thing I would change was mixing the seating up a little! My family sat on one side and Dallas’s family sat on the other side. One side of the table was really quiet and one side was really loud. I think you can guess which was which. But everyone got along and it was nice to get introductions out of the way before the wedding.
I was thinking about taking a photo of our families together but in the beginning of the night everyone was arriving and introducing themselves and it didn’t feel right. And then before dinner ended someone had to leave early to buy their wedding outfit! Nothing like waiting til the last minute! So, that would have been an incomplete photo. We got plenty taken at the wedding, so no matter, but here is one of Dallas and I at our house before we left for dinner.
On Tuesday morning I took an oatmeal soak for my legs and then had breakfast at the house (yay berries & yogurt!). Matt, Ross, Dallas and I then headed over to Shipwreck Beach. We met up with Colleen, Marina and Laura, otherwise known as “The Boston Girls,” even though Laura moved to Los Angeles a couple years ago. Jordan and Liz joined us shortly after.
Shipwreck Beach quickly became a favorite of our friends on this trip. It was nearby (but not walking distance) and less crowded than the Sheraton Beach or Poipu Beach. Plus, it’s gorgeous and there are bathroom facilities and outdoor showers. Parking isn’t great, but usually you can find a spot.
Matt, Ross & Dallas frolicking in the surf. Ross gets pounded into the shore at the end.
Matt, Ross & Dallas. They catch a good one about 3/4 of the way through.
The water is a little more rough over at Shipwrecks than I like, but a lot of the guys were body surfing or using body boards so they all liked it. It’s also very rocky near the shoreline, but if you swim out you’ll get to a sandbar where you can stand and play in the surf. Just play it safe, there are not lifeguards here.
Matt, Ross, and Dallas
Some of the guys later on in the trip got up the courage to jump off the iconic cliff, Makawehi Point, at Shipwrecks. I’d have been more happy if they’d have done this after the wedding, as I was requesting of all people doing risky activities on the trip! Helicopter tour? After the wedding, please. Skydiving? After the wedding! Just read the comments on this post, if you want to learn about how risky this jump is! Bad idea, guys! But luckily, no one was hurt.
Around lunch time Matt, Ross, Dallas, Jordan, Liz and I went to Keoki’s Paradise, a favorite Poipu restaurant of ours. I had a delicious fresh fish (can’t remember what kind!) sandwich and a lava flow, of course. Later on I also tried a Maui Brewing Hot Blonde Lager because Ross could not stop talking about how refreshing it was. Our waitress told us they chill their beer down to 39* degrees. It was so nice after the hot beach.
* Dallas remembers them saying 29 degrees, but I think that would be ice?
When Dallas and I talked about what kind of a place we wanted to rent for our stay in Kauai, we decided that a house would be best. Usually we get a condo and it is perfectly fine, but this time we figured that we needed some place bigger and that we could use as a gathering place. As people arrived on the island and needed to get things to us, or from us, or even just wanted to visit, we needed a place that could accomodate this. And not just a place with a large common area, but also one that had ample parking for guests.
Oh, and also? Since this was a special trip, for our wedding, we also wanted it to be really nice. And have it’s own pool. And an ocean view. But not be so expensive that no one could afford it. Too much to ask?
We spent a lot of time on VRBO and HomeAway doing research. At one point we even made a spreadsheet to compare pricing and amenities of different properties. Finally, we found what we thought seemed to be the perfect place, Ho’Onani Estates.
Ho’Onani Estates
Ho’Onani Estates Back House (Photo by Dallas)
Ho’Onani Estates (located on Ho’Onani Road in Poipu) was very close to our wedding venue and all that Poipu and Koloa have to offer. The estate was actually two houses, one with 4 bedroom suites and one with 5, and had a private pool. Get this list of amenities:
- ocean view
- central location
- 9 bedroom suites plus two pull-out sofas, a queen air mattress, and 2 twin air mattresses. 6 of these suites have an ocean view. 4 have lanais. 3 have walk in closets.
- 2 state-of-the-art gourmet kitchens each with top-of-the-line Viking ranges and each with 2 dishwashers (4 total!)
- oceanside pool with a little waterfall fountain
- central air
- built-in sound systems
- 3 washers and dryers
- 4 car garage with a huge driveway with ample parking space
- free wireless
- 5 televisions with cable (not that we watched TV much!)
- huge lanais with ample seating and tables
- two grills
- beach chairs and umbrellas
- 4 refrigerators
- outdoor shower
- filtered water
- high-end furnishings and interior design
- very short walk to 3 different beaches
Ho’Onani Estates Back House – Staircase (Photo by Dallas)
Ho’Onani Estates Back House – Looking down from staircase
Not only that, but after talking to the rental agency, they were willing to give us a discounted rate because Dallas was a “local boy” getting married. If we could get enough friends to fill up Ho’Onanai Estates, it would come out to $100 per person per night. Sounds too good to be true, right? We thought so too! We couldn’t find any online reviews and I was feeling a little leary about the whole thing. We actually had Dallas’s Uncle Dee drive over there and take some photos to make sure the estate actually existed. It did. So, we sent an out to the friends we knew were attending within a few hours we had a full house.
Staying at Ho’Onani Estates were
- Rachelle & Dallas (of course!)
- Jordan & Liz (visiting from Seattle)
- Jen & Chad (from Chicago)
- Tien & Shannan (from New York)
- Jill & Brian (Chicago)
- Rob & Colleen (from an island off of Maine)
- Kristin (Chicago)
- Cousin (Chicago)
- Limey (Chicago)
- Matt (Boston)
- Ross (Boston)
With the exception of one person, everyone who was with us on the Kauai trip where Dallas and I met was staying with us on our wedding trip. I thought that was pretty cool.
Ho’Onani Estates Pool
Jordan in the Ho’Onani Estates Pool
So, anyway.. Long story short, Ho’Onanai Estates lived up to and even exceeded the expectations we had for it. The houses were so beautiful with all top-of-the-line features. I don’t think there could have been a more ideal set up for our needs. Everyone had a private bedroom and assigned bathroom. One of the “suites” even included a private living room and kitchenette! There were many large common areas to accomodate guests and even quieter sitting areas. Our bedroom was a bit removed, on the quiet second floor of the back house, with a private lanai and a huge bathroom.. a giant tub (for my leg soaks), walk in closet, double sinks, private toilet. Sitting in the tub or standing in the shower, we had sweeping views of the ocean! And it was the first thing I saw when I opened my eyes in the morning. It couldn’t have been more perfect.
Ho’Onani Estates Front House
Ho’Onani Estates Front House
The living room in the front house had so much seating. On the last day we were all hanging out, eating and drinking up the rest of or supplies, and watching the Oscars. We probably had 20+ people comfortably seated in there with bar stools in the kitchen and a full dining area. On the lanais, too. Huge. Tons of seating around tables and on outdoor couches. We could sit outside our houses and whale watch without ever leaving the property. Ho’Onanai Estates is across the street from the ocean, but nothing stands between except for a quiet road that has more walking and running traffic than car traffic. Across from the estate is a pull off for the scenic overlook. This is THE PLACE to watch the sun set and at night it would get a bit crowded with people watching the sun set. But not in a distracting way. Everyone was respectful. But it was funny that our friends would come down here to watch the sun set when we could just sit comfortably on our lanai and have the same view.
Quiet road in the front of the house. (Photo by Rob)
Deck on the front house. (Photo by Rob)
Looking from back house to front house. Outdoor shower is right through those trees. (Photo by Dallas)
Dallas, Josh & Tweeny barbecuing at the front house.
Another plus to Ho’Onani Estates was that Poipu Kapili and the Sheraton Kauai Resort were both within very short walking distance. We had guests staying at both of these properties and it was so convenient that they could just walk up the street to visit us. We didn’t have to worry about driving in the dark (it gets so dark at night) or after having drinks.
Ho’Onani Front House Lanai (Photo by Jen)
Finally, the rental company, Garden Island Rentals, was very easy to work with. Very prompt in communications, always speedily sending along the receipts and documents we needed. And our deposit was returned way before we expected. Great to work with.
Our Bedroom
View from our tub. Same view from the shower (sort of behind, to the right of camera).
More of our bathroom – double sinks, vanity. On the end is a huge walk-in closet. To the left is a seperate toilet room.
The view from our private bedroom lanai.
Front of the house looking out to the ocean. (Photo by Rob)
I could not reccomend Ho’Onanai Estates more if you have a large number of people staying on the south shore of Kauai.